[#OFFICE-1816] ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34 N 1078 : DEFECT REPORT NUMBER JP2-25

OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34 N 1078 : DEFECT REPORT NUMBER JP2-25

Created: 28/May/09 04:24 PM Updated: 05/Aug/10 07:43 PM

Component/s:

None

Affects Version/s:

ODF 1.0, ODF 1.0 (second edition), ODF 1.0 Errata 02

Fix Version/s:

ODF 1.0 Errata 02

Proposal:

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Reject: Too vague to attempt to answer. For example: "The draw:start-glue-point attribute identifies the glue point in the start shape of the connector by its number." Granting that it should say "...a glue point," there isn't anything unclear about this statement.

Resolution:

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9.2.9
Replace:
"The <draw:connector> element represents a series of lines that are connected to the glue points of two other shapes."
with
"The <draw:connector> element represents a connected set of one or more lines, that visually connects a start and an end point.
Start and/or end points can be assigned to glue points (see section 9.2.19) or absolute positions."

15.19
Add to the end of first paragraph:
"The layout of the connector is implementation-dependent."

Sub-Tasks:

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Sub-Task Progress:

1.	~~ODF 1.2 Part 1 10.3.10 <draw:connector> lacks Errata 02 elaboration~~		Applied	Dennis Hamilton
2.	~~ODF 1.2 Part 1 10.3.10 <draw:connector> Connector Properties reconciliation with Errata 02~~		Applied	Dennis Hamilton

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Transcribed from http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/sc34/open/1078.htm

Original author: "MURATA Makoto (FAMILY Given)" <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>
DEFECT REPORT NUMBER JP2-25

QUALIFIER omission

REFERENCES IN DOCUMENT Clauses 9.2.9 and 15.19

NATURE OF DEFECT These subclauses are understandable only if the reader uses OpenOffice and examine the output.

SOLUTION PROPOSED BY THE SUBMITTER Add diagrams, and explain start positions, start shapes, start gule points, and so forth.

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Patrick Durusau added a comment - 06/Jul/09 01:31 PM

Proposal filed.

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Dennis Hamilton added a comment - 22/Mar/10 08:24 PM

1. For example, 15.9 contains the only uses of the phrase "escape line" and nowhere in ODF 1.0 is the term defined or is there any citattion to where there might be such a definition.

2. I am not very confident about "glue point" either, and section 9.2.19 is not all that clear about what is going on, especially when to expect one of the 4 standard glue points, how many of them there are for a gtiven shape (and where they might be) and whether or not user-defined ones have to be numbered "in rotation" (see ID sub-heading) although that seems inappropriate.

3. However, I suspect one might gain some insight into what "escape line" means if we interpret it to mean "connector-line escape" from the outline of the shape. That is a lot of reading between the lines though.

4. I think this is too harsh and itself too vague: "Rejected, the correction of this defect would exceed the limits of OASIS errata and therefore it will be addressed in ODF 1.2. The behavior in question is implementation dependent for purposes of ISO 26300." There is a lot of behavior that might be in question here. If we are not prepared to identify the implementation-dependent behaviors, I don't think we should wave that flag here.

5. recommend that there be no action on this defect item, but that the explanation be more like "No resolution. Further consideration is required. Resolution is deferred to a future revision of the specification."

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Svante Schubert added a comment - 18/Jun/10 09:26 AM

To comment on Dennis previous five points:

1)
We could avoid potential problems of misunderstanding by exchanging
"length of the escape line" with
"distance"

Still we would only solve a subproblem, even more we would solve a part not explicitly mentioned in the original ISO defect report.
After a discussion with Patrick, we would suggest to be consistent and not resolve a subset, but providing a complete answer in a future ODF version.

2)
"Glue Points" are defined among section 9.2.19.
Personally I like the expression "Glue Point" as a nice mnemonic expression.

3)
Solved by 1)

4)
Wording already in previous errata adapted

5)
I agree with Dennis and exchange
"ODF 1.2" to "a future version of ODF."

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Dennis Hamilton added a comment - 05/Aug/10 07:43 PM

Resolution for 9.2.9: In the last sentence of the replacemen for 9.2.9, "Start and/or end point" is adjusted to be "Start and/or end points", as already-adjusted in CD04-rev07.